DIE - it cannot be moved. The license is dead. Expired when the server is disposed of. The capitalization was just for emphasis. Use a tool like System Information for Windows and look up the product id, if the product ID is #####-OEM-###. Then it's OEM. If there's a product key sticker on the case, it's OEM. ![]() Microsoft Open License, Microsoft Open Value, and Microsoft Open Value Subscription are Microsoft Volume Licensing agreements for organizations with 5–499 users/devices that want to license Microsoft on-premises software, cloud services, or both. OLP = Open License Program Microsoft Open License is a Volume Licensing program for small to midsize organizations that have fewer than 250 desktop PCs. The program provides a simple, flexible. If the server CAME with Windows, then it's OEM. OEM is pre-installed by the vendor. They are functionally identical. I mean Hyper-V, VMWare, or any other virtualization platform - OEM copies CANNOT be virtualized. The license requires them to be pre-installed and only run on the hardware. NetworkNerd wrote: I would also think about license management here. Do you really want to have to keep track of a TON of license keys from retail boxes and which computer has it installed? I have been down that road, and it has caused some headache and even accidental license compliance issues. The ease of having one license key for your entire environment really will save you. To be honest, I think having one license key versus a ton of them and access to the features listed above justifies the additional cost. I've had more than one customer have to purchase new VL licensing because they lost the boxed product or could not account for it. NetworkNerd wrote: Do you really want to have to keep track of a TON of license keys from retail boxes and which computer has it installed? No I don't, but we're talking about a $140 premium for an open licence. For a small company of 100 users, that's $14,000. I can't ask my boss to pay a $14k premium just because of my inability to look after a hundred cardboard boxes, can I? Web apps look neat and I could see us using them nicely with Sharepoint. But we're not at that stage, so retail it is. Thanks for you help. Whilst I was initially annoyed that there is such a high premium on Open licences, I guess the reality is that enterprise customers are effectively subsidising SMBs, so I can't really complain. Carnival Boy wrote: Assuming we don't need downgrade rights, or the extra applications that Office Professional Plus includes, is there any other reason to buy Open Licences instead of the Retail version of Office Professional. The latter is about $140 cheaper. I find Open Licences easier to manage, but for a small company I can't justify $140 per user just to make my life a bit easier. Managing retail boxes isn't that hard. I just want to make sure I haven't missed something obvious before I place an order. What about looking at Office 365 for cost savings? - I would suggest the E3 plan. Subscription pricing so you dont have to pay a ton up front! Carnival Boy wrote: NetworkNerd wrote: Do you really want to have to keep track of a TON of license keys from retail boxes and which computer has it installed? No I don't, but we're talking about a $140 premium for an open licence. For a small company of 100 users, that's $14,000. I can't ask my boss to pay a $14k premium just because of my inability to look after a hundred cardboard boxes, can I? Web apps look neat and I could see us using them nicely with Sharepoint. But we're not at that stage, so retail it is. Thanks for you help. Whilst I was initially annoyed that there is such a high premium on Open licences, I guess the reality is that enterprise customers are effectively subsidising SMBs, so I can't really complain. The pricing is not $140 different between retail and VL of Professional. If your comparing Home and Business, then yes there is a price diff. Between Pro and Pro Plus, yes, but not retail to VL. Are you sure your not looking at OEM pricing? And yes for 100 users, even if it was 14K when you look at the management side of it, possibility of loss, getting boxes mixed up, etc its well worth that kind of money. The license management alone is worth it. BTW from my rough memory of how big a copy of Office is in physical form you'd need about 800-1000 cubic feet of space to store it, when was the last time you had a space/time study done on office space? I don't think you can buy Office Professional under volume licencing, can you? Hence the big difference in price. This is in the UK, I don't know if things are different in the US. I don't actually keep the boxes, only the bit of card with a sticker on it that says 'Proof of license' and the Product Key. It really doesn't take up much room. Keep them in the safe and forget about them, they're unlikely to go missing. I'm not sure what happens if they're destroyed by fire. Could I prove ownership with copies of invoices or photocopies of the Product Key card?
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